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Title: Chandler burn index
Post by: NE1NH on October 13, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
I've noticed that some of the other web sites have fire danger (based on-the chandler index) info on there pages

Is there any current option or future plans  for our web pages based on cumulus that will allow us to place a fire danger option ?
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on October 13, 2012, 06:10:49 PM
Hi Don,

All is possible.... If there is an example somewhere to see what we are are talking about!

There are so many thing that can be added... I think of storm watch too...

But days still have 24h!!  ???

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 04, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
Jacques,

I been wondering the same thing. The only example I can give you is at http://www.frogville.us. The catch here is the site is a PHP site and I am using Weather Blues V1.

BTW, on thing I'd like to do is replace the forecast block on the main page (indexT.htm/index.htm) with a fire danger icon. The main reason being that getting an icon that is close to the desert conditions is really hard. I have added a forecast page that give me the forecasts from the National Weather Service instead of trying to guess at what the forecast should be.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 05, 2013, 10:51:06 AM
Hi!

Ok! I've found something good to work on.
Also found reference to "Smokey Bear" signs.

... keep looking at!

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 05, 2013, 12:58:39 PM
Hi!

Ok! I've found something good to work on.
Also found reference to "Smokey Bear" signs.

... keep looking at!

Regards,
Jacques
Jacques,

I especially like the 3rd one, although they are all good. Fire Danger is always been an issue in my area, but more so this year when we've had less than 1.5" (YTD) this year. That's why I've been looking for something for my site. The Forecast icon on the main page maybe good for most areas, it is not good for here in southern Arizona which is why I think that fire danger would been a good replacement for the forecast icon in areas like here. I just wish I was a better PC programmer so I could tackle a project like this. 
 :(

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 06, 2013, 09:36:41 AM
Hi,

I'm about to design something I find interesting for forest fire.
... see by yourself!

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 06, 2013, 09:45:03 AM
Hi,

I'm about to design something I find interesting for forest fire.
... see by yourself!

Regards,
Jacques

Jacques,

I like... I like! Any fire danger graphic is much better with Smokey Bear in it.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 15, 2013, 06:42:11 PM
Hi,

I'm working on Fire Indexes and finally found that the CBI calculation
is pretty basic, with only input of Humidity and Temperature. But there
is some other more "sophisticated" as the Fire Weather Index (FWI).
It's calculation is based on many more parameters... as the rain!!

So, I'm about to do some experimentation to offer something "strong"!
See basic CBI: http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/CBI/CBI_calc.php

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 15, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
Jacques, it looks really great! Considering we have been hanging around 100 with humidities around 7 to 15% and no appreciable rain since .4" since the 2nd half of February.   
 :o

Now, how do we code this? I guess it shouldn't be too hard, should it?

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 17, 2013, 06:52:19 AM
Hi Tom,

Oh! Burn index could be interesting for visitors when so dry, so hot!
For sure module from my site are always geared for "newbies", then
a little easy step-by-step guide will be available too!

But, in your case, you'll have to check if you can "drive" php files
as your site is html. You could do a simple test by taking one of your
site page (a plain text page) and rename it .php (ex. infos.htm to infos.php)
then, visit the page to see if it works (you have to remove .htm version
to avoid possible mix).

... CBI module should be available in the next days!

Best Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 17, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
<snip>

But, in your case, you'll have to check if you can "drive" php files
as your site is html.

<snip>

... CBI module should be available in the next days!

Best Regards,
Jacques
Jacques,

It is not a problem, I am running lots of php stuff with the current host under other domains. Plus I have added a couple php files to my weather site. They work fine.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 19, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
Hi,

Then, see early prototypes available here:
http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/FireDanger.php

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 19, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
Hi,

Then, see early prototypes available here:
http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/FireDanger.php (http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/FireDanger.php)

Regards,
Jacques
I like to looks of this demo page. Hopefully it will work with other themes like the Weather Blues V1.  be
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 19, 2013, 02:37:37 PM
Hi Tom,

Yes, for sure WB1 will be included!  :)

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: avoorpool on May 25, 2013, 01:10:50 PM
Hi Jacques,

Interesting addition..!!!

When entering the image, where does the actual information (image-update) comes from (e.g in Ontario..??)
Is this Environment Canada or just like on my [Air Quality] pages (Air Quality Ontario) does it come from a different source??

Thanks,
Arthur
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 30, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
Hi Arthur,

The script that I'm about to do is a module that work
with the data from the weather station itself.

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 30, 2013, 12:19:05 PM
Hi Arthur,

The script that I'm about to do is a module that work
with the data from the weather station itself.

Regards,
Jacques
Jacques,

That to me seems to make the most sense. I would think our PWS should provide as good information as anything else.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on May 30, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
Hi Tom,

That is near true, as the "official" warnings are coming
from many thousands dollars devices... against my $99 station??  :P
... but, I think you have a Davis! 8)

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on May 30, 2013, 07:39:05 PM
Hi Tom,

That is near true, as the "official" warnings are coming
from many thousands dollars devices... against my $99 station??  :P
... but, I think you have a Davis! 8)

Regards,
Jacques

Jacques,

Nope, I have an Ambient WS-2080 station which was about the same price. I would like to have a fancier one that includes stuff like UV, etc.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: avoorpool on June 04, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
Hi Jacques,

Bad luck, since I don't have my station up and running at the moment.... :o

However, with the "help" of EC and Canada Natural Resources, I created my own "Fire Page" (http://www.altonaweather.ca/wxfiredanger.php)

Enough information about fire danger at this moment....  :))

Cheers,
Arthur
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on June 04, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
Hi Arthur,

Very good page, good information... from a "Big name"
in weather monitoring... so... Bravo!

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: aznetcowboy on June 04, 2013, 11:44:36 AM
Hi Arthur,

Very good page, good information... from a "Big name"
in weather monitoring... so... Bravo!

Regards,
Jacques

Jacques,

I completely agree with you, it is a really nice page. I wish we had something more like that in the States. Of course, maybe we do and I just don't know where to look for it. I know I haven't found anything like that yet. Good job, Arthur!

Having a fire danger script with Smokey Bear is still the thing I want right now.

Tom
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on August 24, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
Hi,

Smokey is "growing" at slow (summer) speed, but things become well!
Fire Index module is having a "configuration" page to start using graphs
and tables with data instead of having an "empty" graph with only day "0"!
(as provide units used in final version)

So, you can try it. You just have to provide a month file (ex aug.13log.txt)
from your Cumulus\data folder. You will see a table with side-by-side
official noon readings and same readings at max temperature.

Since I've read in official document that noon was considered as the hottest
moment of the day, I've compared both results...

Then, see link and give your comments!
http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/lib/FWI/FWI_Config.php

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on September 08, 2013, 09:26:21 AM
Hi,

In my search of a scientificly valuable Fire forecast, I found a gem
 for all station owners, as this document explain A to Z station planning
and a special focus to FWI forecasts.

Something to read!: http://cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/publications?id=1843&lang=en_CA

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on September 28, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
Hi!
Fire Weather Index project still eat all of my time with its formula orgy! :P

Things became more concrete with a validation spreadsheet I've created
with Environment Canada Official documentation. More than 20,000 lines
of table contents has been entered to have a clear portrait about what numbers
supposed to be the thruth!

Source documentation (included) is an explanation guide for Official weather
observers who maintained a daily weather diary on paper, 9 tables was the
reference to establish all Canadian FWI indexes, "in the field".

So, I include in this post, a result of past weeks work on Smockey Bear project!
This MsExcel spreadsheet need some informations to be entered on sheet Diary
- Cell D3: Month number (eg. 8 for august)
- Identification line to identify your station/location
- At line #10, starting numbers for DC / DMC / FFMC has to be find from official sites (or guessed??)
- For daily observations are mandatory:
  - Dry bulb temperature
  - Humidity
  - Wind speed
  - Rain last 24h
  + These are optional (for now)
    - Wet bulb temperature
    - Wind Direction

All "beige" cells will calculate automaticly!
So, now, I'll be able to verify Smokey's numbers!  ^-^

,,, to be followed!

Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on September 29, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
Hi!

I've updated spreadsheet file to include a Farenheight to Celcius converter.
You could enter your orbervations either in "Metric" or "Imperial"units,
for either temp, rain and Wind.

Since converter is "Imperial to Metric", entering Metric measurements will
not chage Imperial ones and will replace formula with your numbers, so keep
a copy to go back to Imperial measures.

Best Regards,
Jacques
Title: Re: Chandler burn index
Post by: Mr.Meteo on October 21, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
Hi!

Smokey Bear module is going a step farther this week
with its configuration module. You could now send a month file
either with US/Metric units and see all indexes for this month
(Now add Chandler Burn Index to Fire Weather Index).

Final step will show you all designs available for your site;
a "Fire Risk page" and 3 different "Fire Stickers" to add to
your other pages.

So, try it with your own month data file, and see what will be
the final look of this module.

Link: http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/FireDanger.php

Regards,
Jacques