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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 11:13:14 AM »
Hi Arthur,

The script that I'm about to do is a module that work
with the data from the weather station itself.

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 12:19:05 PM »
Hi Arthur,

The script that I'm about to do is a module that work
with the data from the weather station itself.

Regards,
Jacques
Jacques,

That to me seems to make the most sense. I would think our PWS should provide as good information as anything else.

Tom

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 06:43:50 PM »
Hi Tom,

That is near true, as the "official" warnings are coming
from many thousands dollars devices... against my $99 station??  :P
... but, I think you have a Davis! 8)

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 07:39:05 PM »
Hi Tom,

That is near true, as the "official" warnings are coming
from many thousands dollars devices... against my $99 station??  :P
... but, I think you have a Davis! 8)

Regards,
Jacques

Jacques,

Nope, I have an Ambient WS-2080 station which was about the same price. I would like to have a fancier one that includes stuff like UV, etc.

Tom

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2013, 09:30:06 AM »
Hi Jacques,

Bad luck, since I don't have my station up and running at the moment.... :o

However, with the "help" of EC and Canada Natural Resources, I created my own "Fire Page" (http://www.altonaweather.ca/wxfiredanger.php)

Enough information about fire danger at this moment....  :))

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Arthur

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2013, 11:03:56 AM »
Hi Arthur,

Very good page, good information... from a "Big name"
in weather monitoring... so... Bravo!

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2013, 11:44:36 AM »
Hi Arthur,

Very good page, good information... from a "Big name"
in weather monitoring... so... Bravo!

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Jacques

Jacques,

I completely agree with you, it is a really nice page. I wish we had something more like that in the States. Of course, maybe we do and I just don't know where to look for it. I know I haven't found anything like that yet. Good job, Arthur!

Having a fire danger script with Smokey Bear is still the thing I want right now.

Tom

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2013, 07:35:33 PM »
Hi,

Smokey is "growing" at slow (summer) speed, but things become well!
Fire Index module is having a "configuration" page to start using graphs
and tables with data instead of having an "empty" graph with only day "0"!
(as provide units used in final version)

So, you can try it. You just have to provide a month file (ex aug.13log.txt)
from your Cumulus\data folder. You will see a table with side-by-side
official noon readings and same readings at max temperature.

Since I've read in official document that noon was considered as the hottest
moment of the day, I've compared both results...

Then, see link and give your comments!
http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/lib/FWI/FWI_Config.php

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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 09:26:21 AM »
Hi,

In my search of a scientificly valuable Fire forecast, I found a gem
 for all station owners, as this document explain A to Z station planning
and a special focus to FWI forecasts.

Something to read!: http://cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/publications?id=1843&lang=en_CA

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Jacques
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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2013, 12:00:29 PM »
Hi!
Fire Weather Index project still eat all of my time with its formula orgy! :P

Things became more concrete with a validation spreadsheet I've created
with Environment Canada Official documentation. More than 20,000 lines
of table contents has been entered to have a clear portrait about what numbers
supposed to be the thruth!

Source documentation (included) is an explanation guide for Official weather
observers who maintained a daily weather diary on paper, 9 tables was the
reference to establish all Canadian FWI indexes, "in the field".

So, I include in this post, a result of past weeks work on Smockey Bear project!
This MsExcel spreadsheet need some informations to be entered on sheet Diary
- Cell D3: Month number (eg. 8 for august)
- Identification line to identify your station/location
- At line #10, starting numbers for DC / DMC / FFMC has to be find from official sites (or guessed??)
- For daily observations are mandatory:
  - Dry bulb temperature
  - Humidity
  - Wind speed
  - Rain last 24h
  + These are optional (for now)
    - Wet bulb temperature
    - Wind Direction

All "beige" cells will calculate automaticly!
So, now, I'll be able to verify Smokey's numbers!  ^-^

,,, to be followed!

Regards,
Jacques
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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2013, 07:55:36 AM »
Hi!

I've updated spreadsheet file to include a Farenheight to Celcius converter.
You could enter your orbervations either in "Metric" or "Imperial"units,
for either temp, rain and Wind.

Since converter is "Imperial to Metric", entering Metric measurements will
not chage Imperial ones and will replace formula with your numbers, so keep
a copy to go back to Imperial measures.

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Jacques
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Re: Chandler burn index
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2013, 06:05:58 PM »
Hi!

Smokey Bear module is going a step farther this week
with its configuration module. You could now send a month file
either with US/Metric units and see all indexes for this month
(Now add Chandler Burn Index to Fire Weather Index).

Final step will show you all designs available for your site;
a "Fire Risk page" and 3 different "Fire Stickers" to add to
your other pages.

So, try it with your own month data file, and see what will be
the final look of this module.

Link: http://weatherbyyou.com/demo/weather_sunset/FireDanger.php

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Jacques
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